Posts by No Longer Held Captive

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1984 And The Watchtower

by Bangalore in

1984 and the watchtower.. http://ebedabodah.blogspot.com/2009/06/1984-and-watchtower.html.

let me ask you: have you ever read the book 1984?

if you have, many things may now be going through your head in regard to the watchtower.

Nathan, I dont take drugs, but dgp, said he was looking for a specific person on this board, gave details of that persons wife and kids, in one breath he says forgive the wbts and go back to it, despite its faults, then he has his eyes on another mans wife who is still part of the wbts. Sometimes, a little discernment. Not all here are genuine nathan, there true blue dubs that take back that all is said, maybe even members of branch offices are on here. But, dgp has said he is looking for a specific person, and that person wont speak to him, whys that? and i said bullshit once, a rightly so, as people dont leave the borg in the face of losing their families. Have you ever received mail from borg members about fucking your wife and kids, killing members of your families, carrying out terror attacks?

Maybe you havent, but others on this forum, as well as that of others have been hurt deeply by this organisation and what it does, and to come on here and defend it, and to tell people to go back to it despite its faults, well, here is the wrong place, because nobody here is interested in defending it. I know a similar guy to dgp, with similar initials, similar circumstances, and my wife is 45, my daughters are 20, he gave away virtually the same information in a very subtle way.

During the book study group he would sit with his shorts on with his genitalia hanging out of his shorts, women and kids had to look at this, and all the elders could say was" we have the situation under our control". His own daughter got pregnant at age of 14, and men visiting the house that would spend the night there with the daughters, the elders would shake their hands and even enjoy their smutty jokes.

He was bombed out of the Police force in the uk, as they had so many complaints about him. He had been in a few forces and he was moved on. In britain, there are officers on the move all the time so as to escape conviction, when they fuck up, they get transferred in the uk. there are currently 158 officers in scotland with 2 or more criminal convictions (The Scotsman). It also went to crown prosecution, great witness dont you think? There is more stuff Nathan, very sensitive, but because of pre-judicial enquiries and proceedings it cant be made open on here

www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2summary_0286-18907567_ITM

Not everyone on here is on here for genuine reasons, and some do take this info back to their masters at the kingdom halls and branch offices.

The similarities could just be similarities Nathan, then again, what if the similarities are more than that?

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Does God believe in burning People?

by ssn587 in

reading the book, you can live forever in paradise earth, on page 81 end of paragraph two it reads, "this raises the question: did almighty god create such a place of torment?

well, what was god's view when the israelites, following the example of peoples who lived nearby, began to burn their children in fire?

he explains in his word: "they have built the high places of topheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing i had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.".

No Longer Held Captive

Yeah, you must do all the big guy says, and when, if not, you are going down into that eternal fire, where there is molten brimstone, and where worms eat you up from the inside, and you will suffer this for an eternity-But, he also loves you.

The big guy, as powerful, and all knowing he may be, he has a problem with money, he always needs money, and can never get enough of it.

The above was on the zeitgeist movie and was so funny, but it shows the hypocrisy of religion, which in Rutherfords own words were "A racket and a snare".

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records of disfellowshipped people being destroyed?

by asilentone in

one poster on the other thread said the elders are now destroying all records of all disfellowshipped people.

is that true?.

No Longer Held Captive

Getting off topic, I have a friend in the far east and he is moving into the Luxury toilet paper business, he wants watchtower and awake specifically, and wonders how he can get 25 million copies a month-do they still give them away free, if so we are in business. Quite a novel idea actually, and because its all false prophecy and no hope stuff anyway, maybe wiping ones arse with these are all they are fit for.....any help?

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records of disfellowshipped people being destroyed?

by asilentone in

one poster on the other thread said the elders are now destroying all records of all disfellowshipped people.

is that true?.

No Longer Held Captive

Its on the keeping the congregation clean and pure post. But why does it need to be five years blondie? sounds like a jail sentence. Or is it as long as their hatred burns for the person concerned, whether is /she was guilty or not? is it biblical, can it be based on the bible, is there solid proof in the bible its for 5 years?

What if womens panty thieving elders that give BJs to their ex-cop dub friends, while at the same time watching sisters and their kids take their clothes off while standing outside the house doing it, does this come into the 5 year time period, or sweeping it under the carpet? This is the point I get lost of what warrants a JC and what doesnt.

I suppose its a bit like appointment to elder really. Is it by spirit, or by nepotism, or something else like sniffing the backsides of each others underpants like dogs sniff each others arses to see and find out who is king pin? if you find this incredulous, dont, because there are stranger things than fiction that actually do happen, and in this very exclusive club. Do you know about bed hopping and wife swapping in a very well known Bethel in Europe?

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Negative Ads.

by bobld in

lately the a/w mags have a lot of negative ads about other religions:ex.

"exposed six myths about christianity" or "how can you choose a good religion" on and on and on all negative stuff.you would thing an election is going on with all the mud slinging.how we are better than you.. also all the awake articles are food for the dr.phil and oprah shows ie.depression,alcohol,working,wealth,money,etc,etc.

bob.

No Longer Held Captive

Too true Kaiser. Always condemning someone else, but never pointing that highly perceptive finger at themselves, never going to the mirror and taking a long hard look.

I have never ever seen any boards on anti any other religion the way I have seen with jws, have you ever thought about that? and its not people on the outside condemning it, but its coming from people on the inside and those that were on the inside, so the wbts cant say" its the world, it hates us,...persecution, presecution".

If they would take a long hard look, listen to what real bible scholars are saying, listened to people in their ranks, then maybe they could progress, but that wont happen, they want to dig their heels in, but as you know pride comes before the crash, and what a crash it will be for them, and they could never say that no one said "I told you so".

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records of disfellowshipped people being destroyed?

by asilentone in

one poster on the other thread said the elders are now destroying all records of all disfellowshipped people.

is that true?.

No Longer Held Captive

Yes, it was me. that posted it. Yes, they are destroying records now of disfellowshipped people, and it was Besty that originally brought this issue to light, but he doesnt give a stuff if his records are destroyed or not, like me, he wont be going back, and with moving away, very far away, the chances of being found are nil.

But yes, all records are now destroyed, suppose it could have something to do with suing them for wrong doing, dont know, but if they destroy the records, its like you dont exist or have never been part of the church, dont know the reasoning behind it? Maybe besty will know? But, this is just another part of wbts warped thinking. The bible talks about those that know they originate with God, well, you could say they do, but not the God of the bible, but the god that rules this world and whose spirit operates in the sons of disobedience, just like the spirit of God operates within the sons that really are obedient to him. Its just warped thinking. Who knows why they do it? But, its not new, its been on the go for a while.

But, unfortunately, like Hitler, another control freak, they kept records of their child abusers, like Hitler kept records of the Holocaust.....it beats me why they didnt destroy those?????

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All You Apostates are EVIL READ!!

by DubR in

first off lmao, i was just joking by my title guys.

im only 24yrs old and i like to have fun!

anyway, this is my very first post on this wonderful site.

No Longer Held Captive

Sorry, no apostates on here, apostasy is what goes on at religions centre, not at its fringes.

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Australian Senator Slams Scientology in Parliment - Could JWs Be Next?

by Hopscotch in

australian senator xenophon slammed scientology in a speech in parliment.

it was covered last night on national tv here by a current affairs program today tonight.

by sheer chance (as i usually do not watch tv) it was starting when i went into my mil's room (she is a jw who lives with us) so i stayed and watched the program.. the senator stated at the end of his speech, "scientology is not a religious organisation, it is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.".

No Longer Held Captive

where do we find a journalist?

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God will end all suffering! when?how? Dec 1/09 wt

by bobld in

over 2,600 years ago habakkuk asked god that q.what does the wt have to about this q.

"god really cares how we know.

do you like good food?

No Longer Held Captive

Problem Solved

WBTS role in the oncoming New World Order will be one of control and eugenics, diving the family and individual....the son of destruction has now been revealed.

Alduous Huxley was a secret dub.

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God will end all suffering! when?how? Dec 1/09 wt

by bobld in

over 2,600 years ago habakkuk asked god that q.what does the wt have to about this q.

"god really cares how we know.

do you like good food?

No Longer Held Captive

Suffer all little children that come unto me via my self appointed slave.

You must give up your lives and careers for me.

Suffer and know hardship

Your kids must forgoe pursuing higher education

You must believe all we tell you through our self appointed slave, and if you disagree, then its out you go.

Keep your mouth shut about serious wrong doing, dont go to the Police, let the spirit appointed and lead leaders and elders deal with it.

Do all we say without question

You must hate worldly people and have no association with anyone outside of the camp

You must let your kids die, even if surgery would prevent a life threatening situation.

You must believe in the long ago debunked 1914 doctrine and all linked to it

You must not speak to family members who are disfellowshipped

You must believe without reserve on all of the Bible doctrines we publish, and these of course are subject to change as regards any new light that may be shed on the situation.

Failure to comply will mean ultimate destruction and death at Armageddon

You must go in service to get as many bums on seats and sell as many books as possible

I think our guidelines are clear enough

Your christian brothers

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